Another Casualty of MSM Bias, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif

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July 14, 2010 by torqdog

What is up with the MSM these days. Are they so arrogant to think that they can blatantly ignore major stories that affect us. Whatever happened to “objective journalism”? First it was the TOTAL lack of coverage of the new NASA policy as mentioned and discussed previously in the “Fly Me to the Moon” thread. Now, they’ve decided not to cover the whole DOJ/Black Panther case and their failure to do so has claimed a victim, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif. Apparently, he got a little roughed up when he claimed to know nothing about the case. Seems he even mentioned that his “sources”  of news (MSM) had no mention other than 1 page in 50,000.

Here, let’s watch him wiggle and squirm;

Here’s some text from the story;

A California congressman who drew shouts of disbelief at a town hall meeting when he said he was unaware of the voter intimidation case involving the New Black Panther Party explained that the reason he hadn’t heard about the story was because his news sources didn’t cover it. 

Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., in a written statement released late Tuesday, accused Fox News of launching “attacks on me” for showing video of the meeting. He said he would soon send a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder regarding the incident and “the importance of allegations of voter intimidation,” but said the “major sources of information which I rely upon most” did not mention the issue. 

But he also offered an excuse for missing the news, saying none of the media he reads covered it. 

Sherman listed the Los Angeles Times, the Los Angeles Daily News, the Economist, Newsweek, Congressional Quarterly and National Journal and said he only found one mention of the Black Panther case.

“While it is possible that our review missed something, it can be said that less than one page per 50,000 from the above sources deals with the issue,” Sherman said. “In contrast, Fox News covered the issue repeatedly.” 

Hmmmm, looks like those “fair and balanced” folks just keep on delivering news….. ALL OF IT!!! Regardless of what some would want you to believe, THAT is the sole reason they continue to dominate the airwaves. Most folks just want it all and in this case that means ALL the news, not just what the “in bed with the Dems”, liberal editors want you to see. NBC, ABC and CBS alone lost close to another million viewers of their evening newscasts in the last year, Is it any wonder why?

Read the entire article here; (Caution Bill, it’s from “those” guys!) ;-)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/13/congressman-shouted-claiming-know-new-black-panther-case/

Also, if you by chance are like Brad Sherman and haven’t heard about the DOJ dismissing the Black Panter voter intimidation case as well as stating that their new policy is to never bring another lawsuit against a Black or other minority, you can start here;

http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/obamas-department-of-justice-never-bring-another-lawsuit-against-a-black-or-other-national-minority/

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33 thoughts on “Another Casualty of MSM Bias, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif

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  2. rjblack says:

    Anyone who believes the lame stream media has any journalistic integrity and is interested in the truth must still be in a coma. What frustrates me is most Americans fail to think critically for themselves and watch 30-second sound bites and consider themselves to be informed on the day’s news.

    Thankfully, we see people becoming engaged with their representatives and asking the obvious and hard questions, for this they are labelled as white middleclass trash with archaic values and out of touch with today’s reality.

    Well, I must inform the youth of America on both sides of the political spectrum, this is the generation that protested in the streets, were shot at and some killed by the army National Guard and the police, see Kent State and went to prison for our beliefs and we don’t like the direction the country is going.

    The original protesters who paved the way for you today are pissed off and we are not going to take it anymore, we have money, wisdom and votes, so sit down, hold on and enjoy the ride, it is going to get more interesting in the following couple of years.

    Unlike today’s protesters we are not key board commandos.

  3. Bill says:

    “Wild In The Streets,” huh? It was a great flick back then, but sounds silly these days.

    Let me ask two simple, respectful questions, RJ: #1-What is it, exactly, that you plan to do with your money and your anger and your history of protest?, and #2- What sources of news do you seek out rather than what Sarah Palin calls the “lamestream media?” Please share your non-partisan, ethical, not-for-profit, reliable, non-conflicted sources and I’ll certainly be open to looking at them, reading and listening to them. Everyone knows, or should know, that ratings drive advertising revenue and any news organization does what they do for one reason: Making money. Even the news and opinion blogs are “monetizing” themselves to receive advertiser dollars, thus, looking to score hits through enticing headlines and editorial.

    Couple of quick things: Rush Limbaugh is Mainstream Media. Bill O-Reilly is Mainstream Media. Fox News is Mainstream Media. If you look at the stats and compare with other media, they are as Mainstream as and manipulative for opinions than any source they can point to as Mainstream Media. The networks have just been at it longer.

    And, perhaps the so-called MSM isn’t covering the “OMG! New Black Panther Voter Intimidation” story because nobody gives a shit except you and few hand-wringing Grannies at the bridge club.

    Rand Paul’s Tea Party Bullshit Express has been accused of the same thing. Why, oh, Why hasn’t Fox News or Newsmaxx or World Net Daily reported on this?!?! My god, what’s this country coming to when such an important, crucial story is staring them right in the face?

  4. Bill says:

    And I have a huge, shocking surprise for you. I read the morning paper cover to cover. I read the weekly alternative paper cover to cover. I watch network news and cable news coverage in the morning.

    I didn’t know about the latest New Black Panther Voter Intimidation story until Randy wrote about it here. I heard about it during the elections and then it went away. My point being that I can dig through partisan news sites and blogs all day long and harvest an untold quantity of tiny blurbs that, on the surface sound so horrible, but when taken in context of two wars, unemployment, stonewalling Republicans in Congress, the Gulf, the economy, Wall Street banking reform, etc., don’t mean a goddam thing.

    • Stu says:

      I think those “untold quantity of tiny blurbs” can be critically important.

      Take for example, ummm….ok, the Seattle Mariners baseball team. I know this might be a bad analogy, but stick with me for a minute.

      I can read the morning paper cover to cover and maybe catch the box scores from last night’s game. The sports section might even give me a article or two about the team’s latest trades, or a human interest piece about one of the players.

      The network news, cable news and local news on TV would result in a substantially similar experience. ESPN wouldn’t offer me much insight either.

      And I’m sure as hell only going to get the company line from the team’s official website, and those outlets they purchase advertising from.

      However, if I spent the day digging through sporting news sites and blogs written by passionate baseball fans (or even more specifically, Mariner fans), I then might actually learn something. I might gain some insights about the team over and above what the for-profit media outlets are spoon-feeding me.

      What I am saying is that sometimes those little things we find that sound so horrible, probably sound that way because they are horrible – regardless of the context they are taken in and/or what other “bigger fish” might be frying at the time.

    • torqdog says:

      Bill, I think there’s a huge difference between digging through partisan news sites and and huge media block that has been justly accused of showing favoritism to left wing groups and causes completely ignoring two major stories. When you have folks at the DOJ dismissing cases due to the skin color of the accused and the NASA chief telling of a major shift in policy, that’s huge whether you wanna admit it or not. It affects each and every one of us. The Fox thing only affects those few folks who watch that network. Your attempts to deflect and make a bigger story of the Fox thing is silly. You’re taking a situation where someone has ligitimately bought stock and trying to say that THAT is more important than the DOJ dismissing a case involving voter intimidation? I would bet my house that if it was white guys in hoods standing around in front of a polling place yelling racial epithets and brandishing billy clubs, this would have frosted your nut for sure. Whatever happened to equal protection under the law?

      When you try to dismiss two stories of national importance and repeatedly post your latest Fox obsession like it’s the most important revelation that has come along in years, it becomes very clear what is most important to you.

  5. Bill says:

    “Some people” also want you to know that Fox News has a major shareholder who unabashedly donates money to Al Qeada, Hezbollah and Palestinian suicide bombers. And you know what? I didn’t get that information from any of your so-called Mainstream Media Outlets or MSNBC.

    You guys need to learn something that I learned long, long ago. The “media” isn’t biased, it’s cannabalistic. It eats its own if there’s a story and ratings-money involved. Will they broadcast every story that YOU want them to broadcast? No, no more than Fox investigates itself for Prince Alweed’s ownership and self-described influence on news reporting.

    Yeah, they report ALL THE NEWS!!!! all right. They report ALL THE NEWS!!! that fits into your view of the world. That’s why you watch them and slurp-up all the Republican propaganda they pour into the slop tough.

    • torqdog says:

      So 5% or 7% constitutes a “major share holder” in your opinion? For one, that’s just plain ridiculous and I don’t quite understand why you’re so worked up about this other than it’s a distraction meant to go against Fox’s running away with the ratings. Since when did it become illegal for someone to purchase on the free market, interest in a corporation they found appealing. Hell, I probably even own a minute smidgen of Fox through one of my 401k funds and don’t even know it.

      Maybe I’ll call up Roger and ask him for more cowbell.

  6. torqdog says:

    OK, so I talked to me Mum today, a self proclaimed reborn liberal who is still registered Republican (huh?). She takes pride in being well informed and being as she is retired, has plenty of time to spend maintaining her education of current events. Today we got to talking about this subject as well as the NASA thing and much to my surprise, she was unaware of both and of course, thought I was pulling her leg, especially with the NASA thing.

    So it suddenly dawned upon me that when I posted both of those items, I was assuming that everyone here knew about them. How stoopid of me to think that! So I’ve decided that in the interest of keeping y’all up to speed here to post the original video of the New Black Panthers out in front of the polling place in Philly. This is the same video that all but guaranteed that the prosecution had an open and closed case…….. until Eric Holder and the DOJ intervined and dismissed the case outright.

    The video. There also were accounts (not seen on this vid) from witnesses that these two gentlemen were also spouting racial epithets to some as they went in to vote.

    Also, I thought I might include a little background on the guy with the billy club, King Samir Shabaz. This vid was shot recently at an outdoor gathering in Philadelphia. He seems a bit agitated.

    Thank god the 1st ammendment still allows him to show us what’s really on his mind!

  7. torqdog says:

    Here’s a video I just found from today’s “America Today” show with host Megyn Kelly. This is at times difficult to listen to due to high amounts of screeching dialogue from the two of them trying to talk at once. Good points made from both sides of the argument. Despite the header, Kirsten Powers holds her own, IMHO.

    If you make it through the entire vid, you will have a pretty good idea as to what’s going down with this case.

  8. Bill says:

    from Media Matters this morning:

    “Right-wing media have amplified the race-baiting behind the completely unsubstantiated allegations that President Obama’s Justice Department engaged in racially charged “corruption” in the New Black Panther Party case. Now, CNN contributor and RedState.com editor-in-chief Erick Erickson has called on Republicans to “seize on this issue” and turn the New Black Panther Party into the “21st century Willie Horton.”

    Erickson: Turn New Black Panthers case into Willie Horton ad. In a July 13 blog post, headlined, “[New Black Panther Party member] King Samir Shabazz Should Be 2010’s Willie Horton,” CNN contributor and RedState.com editor-in-chief Erick Erickson wrote: “Republican candidates nationwide should seize on this issue. The Democrats are giving a pass to radicals who advocate killing white kids in the name of racial justice and who try to block voters from the polls.” Erickson added: “The Democrats will scream racism. Let them. Republicans are not going to pick up significant black support anyway.” Erickson’s employer, CNN, notes that the Willie Horton ad “played to racial fears and portrayed Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis as soft on crime.”

    Mark Levin: New Black Panthers are part of the “armies of the left.” On his July 12 program, conservative radio host Mark Levin falsely claimed that Eric Holder didn’t “allow sentencing” for New Black Panthers, and added that the NBPP are part of the “armies of the left.” Levin previously claimed that Holder, the nation’s first African-American attorney general, “embraces the New Black Panthers.”

    New Black Panther story following a familiar pattern. Fox News’ embrace of Adams’ accusations against the Department of Justice are in keeping with a pattern observed in previous instances in which a bogus story has jumped from the conservative fringe to the mainstream media:

    (Check Out #3, #4 and #5. Sound familiar?)

    1. Right-wing bloggers, talk radio hosts, and other conservative media outlets start promoting and distorting the story.

    2. Fox News picks up the story and gives it heavy, one-sided coverage.

    3. Fox News and conservative media attack the “liberal media” for ignoring the distorted story.

    4. Mainstream media outlets eventually cover the story, echoing the right-wing distortions.

    5. Fox News receives credit for promoting the story.

    6. The story is later proven to be false or wildly misleading, long after damage is done.

    This same pattern has played out several times before, with some variations. Three prominent examples from the past two years are the ACORN videos, Barack Obama’s “relationship” with William Ayers, and the “Climategate scandal.”

  9. torqdog says:

    Change the names from Fox to MSNBC, CNN, and the other three insignificants and change the story as well and voila, you have the same thing going on from the other side. Just because it becomes a political football doesn’t take away from the truth of the matter. Bottom line Bill is that both sides do it, it’s called politics.

    Right now, a very violent Thunderstorm is about to hit us here and the lights have been flickering as I post this, so with that I say bye-bye for now.

  10. torqdog says:

    Believe it or not, I’m pretty much in agreement with ya here Bill…… to a point. It’s no secret that political parties latch onto key issues and try to gain momentum. I agree that this is partially what’s driving this particular topic. But where you and I might have differing opinions is that I don’t neccessarily look at the subject at hand suddenly becoming irrelevant because it has become a political football. Each case should be judged on it’s merits aside from the political implications. I also find that this tactic is used by both sides, it’s politics. It’s funny you should mention Willie Horton. The first person to use the issue was not Bush senior as everyone has been led to believe, it was Al Gore.
    From wiki;
    The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate at the Felt Forum sponsored by the New York Daily News, Gore took issue with the furlough program.
    Add to that the perennial “Repubs are gonna take away your social security” or the usual race card incidents like the Missouri ad that stated “voting for Repubs would guarantee more Black churches will burn” or the one where they tried to link GWB to the black guy who got dragged to death behind a pick-up truck. Or how about during Clinton’s reign his demonizing repubs stating they wanted to take away school lunches which was about as far from the truth as could be. Ya see, it goes on and has been going on for decades, maybe longer. I’m just waiting for the news that someone has broken into Mel Gibson’s pantry and found a box of lipton tea bags. Then it would be game on because those who have been looking long and hard will have finally found the golden Tea Party Racist bigot poster boy. Ya know what I mean? That’s what we’ve become in this competitive race to be on top.

    You know as well as I that a politician or a political party is gonna try to take advantage of controversial issues if there’s gain to be had. It’s what we’ve become.

  11. Bill says:

    Al Gore may have first mentioned it, but he didn’t pick it up and run an entire TV campaign on it, like Bush Sr’s people (the late, great dirty trickster, Lee Atwater) did against Dukakis. In fact, the rest of the sentence you got from WIKI says: “However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even his name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.” Atwater intiated the rsearch and development of WIllie Horton specifically. Gore probably gave them the general idea.

    The same way that a black columnist for the LA Times wrote a single column one day about “Barack The Magic Negro” and then Limbaugh ran with it (custom song written) every day on his show, Republican operatives circulated CD copies with glee and their defense was,”Well, a black guy wrote the story, we’re just “going with it.” They weren’t agreeing with the premise of the column. They just thought it was funny to say “Barack The Magic Negro,” the way Ann Coulter thought it was “funny,” according to her, to keep saying Barack HUSSEIN Obama during the election.

    And although you made mention of my accusations of racism leveled at parts of the Tea Party movement recently, I see that I’m not nearly alone. I see a new storm brewing over the NAACP asking the Tea Party to exclude racists from their group last week. When the dust settled, the Tea Party Federation gave Mark Williams, the TP Express founder (Searchlight rally), the boot today for being a racist. This is the saem guy with the “slaves = Niggar” sign that he then tried to awkwardly photshop to say some silly childhood-sounding slogan.

    The story is out in full view again and will go deeper this time because of the upcoming fall elections. And, really, everyone needs to be on their best behavior. There’s a big TP rally scheduled for Kentucky or Tennessee coming up and they are going to make a big deal out of publicly exorcising the racist demon from their ranks.

    • torqdog says:

      I agree with what you just said and have a question. Do you see any chance that operatives from the left will now try to infiltrate Tea Party events and produce signs that would frame the Tea Party folk as racists? I wouldn’t put it past them as there have already been instances where they have pulled of some factors of irreverant behavior and then tried to blame it on the TP. Video is becoming a real biatch if you know what I mean! ;-)

  12. Bill says:

    And, as I recall, Lee Atwater (he was the Republican National Committee dude, Michael Steel’s predecessor) made a number of very touching death bed apologies as he lay dying from an inoperable brain tumor and I wish people would remember this about him: “Since being stricken last year, the 39-year-old Mr. Atwater has apologized on several occasions for many of the campaign tactics he once employed and for which he was criticized. But rarely has he spoken in such detail or with such candor as in the interview for the first-person Life (magazine) article.”

    He specifically apologized to Mike Dukakis in 1991 for the Willie Horton campaign. He said, at that time, that he was going to “strip the bark off that little bastard (Dukakis) and “make Wilie Horton his running mate.”

    Atwater was 40 years old when he died and was quite an accomplished rock and roll singer and blues guitar player. I watched him playing on the news one night and he was whacking away at a Gibson 335 with gusto.

  13. Bill says:

    I don’t know, Randy. It seems both sides have their jackets pulled over their heads and are just flailing away at each other in a giant slap fight. Mark Williams is one of those guys who said that it was people from “Crash The Party” that were doing all the racist-appearing antics at rallies, but we know that’s not correct because Crash the Party dissolved shortly after it came out on Facebook and the founder, a school teacher in Oregon, got hate mail, threatening phone calls at work and people called the school district with reports that he was a pedophile. All that because he said, basically, that he was going to go to TP rallies and “outcrazy” them. If a reporter asked a TPer if they thought Obama was an alien (Kenyan), Crash The Party people were to jump in and say,”Yeah! I think he’s from planet Rigel 9!” I don’t think it was ever to carry signs with vulgar, racist words, like WIlliams had done, but more to play to tv cameras by acting weird.

  14. rjblack says:

    Hi Bill, sorry for the delay, minor crisis on one of our remote job sites.

    You said, “Let me ask two simple, respectful questions,” RJ: #1-What is it, exactly, that you plan to do with your money and your anger and your history of protest?
    #2- What sources of news do you seek out rather than what Sarah Palin calls the “lame stream media?”

    Money is a commodity much like food and I use is accordingly to support independent journalists, charity causes I believe in and never on any political party. Mocking protests and the people who participated in them during the sixties in the opening comment is a disservice to the millions of Americans who had the intestinal fortitude to take it into the streets and tell the government it was wrong, something most Americans today seem incapable of doing. I am not asking a person to become violent in the streets that is stupidity, but millions protesting countrywide would certainly create attention to the real issues in America today.

    As for question two, you clearly show you are indeed ill informed; the term lame stream media was coined over eight years ago as new websites when independent civilian journalists started to appear and write articles asking poignant questions and writing editorials opposite of the main streams view of the issues.

    Largely these Americans were ignored, more recently they are mocked as newspaper subscriptions fall, and audiences abandon mainstream news and seek more informed articles on the issues and civil rights violations. Civilian independent journalists have no advertisers to offend, no editors answering to corporate boards controlling the information and putting a political spin in favor of one party or another and supporting a specific candidate.

    MSN, Fox, NBC and others you mentioned here are puppets of either the democrats or the republicans and their spin is designed specifically to inflame the other side. News is fluff in the media today and the real issues are largely ignored by Americans who fail to understand the implications such as your comment on the Black Panthers.

    This only received coverage because citizen journalists followed the story and reported it in depth on their blogs and articles, which by the way are visited many times daily by the “main Stream” media, technology is a wonderful thing, you can actually track your visitors and know where they are coming from.

    If you think for one moment that citizen journalists are a joke, maybe you should look at Joe Lieberman’s bill giving the President the authority to shut down the internet up to four months without congressional approval, he even cites China as his example to model after. Read my blog on it and follow the links, I even posted the bill if you care to read it. The government does not own the internet period.

    I do not care what race or creed people are, if you intimidate people from casting their votes it is a crime and if someone has a weapon in their hand and attempts to prevent me from voting, then I exercise my second amendment right and introduce them to God. Enough anger there for you yet?

    Stu has the right idea with getting information, and then he makes the decision based on his research, not some fluff that is controlled.

    Cheers

  15. rjblack says:

    Furthermore, do not waste time on the dirty tricks used by each party to destroy the creditability of the others; it is nothing but diversion tactics keeping you from focusing on legislative issues and the true meat and potatoes of government. Republican or Democrat, it makes no difference to me, that includes the Tea Party, a thorn in the coming elections for sure, and I love it.

    Politics in America has run unchecked for far too long and the accountability of each professional politician in America will be under scrutiny from citizen journalists daily. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, I look for the facts and where the trail leads to, innocent people should not be afraid of the truth, people who have something to hide do and they attack with everything at their disposal.

    Look behind the legislation and what group or industry stands to benefit the most and then dig a little deeper and you will start to awaken to the truth. The constitution and the oaths taken to defend it is not a case of semantics as some argue, people are bound by the oath taken of their own volition and betraying the oath of office is a crime.

    I am not an oath taker, more of a patriot who loves this country and the values that made this nation the melting pot of the world, prepared to defend America and you’re absolute right to agree or disagree with any political or non political opinion I have or the government calls policy with my last breath.

    America first always

  16. BIll says:

    Ok, nice pontificating, RJ. Reminiscent of Mass Comm 101 in college.

    Now, tell me again how I’m ill-informed about the most recent use of the term “lamestream” media? You are seriously calling my “informed” status into question because I didn’t tell a story about how independent journalists coined the phrase 8 years ago, I just jumped to the most notable, idiotic McWordSalad practitioner currently?

    How about the Wall Street Journal first using the term 11 years ago, bucko?

    Who’s ill-informed now?

    Ok, next! Tell me the true importance, the deeper meaning, the serious nuance behind the New Black Panther story that your lamestream media is glossing over or ignoring. Let me guess first: You think Eric Holder gave them a pass because they’re black.

    And while you construct a reply, think about this: “In another case, in Arizona, the complaint was received by a national civil rights organization regarding events in Pima, Arizona in the 2006 election when three well-known anti-immigrant advocates affiliated with the Minutemen, one of whom was carrying a gun, allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating and printing voting materials in Spanish.” -Media Matters

    Gosh, I don’t recall FOX going insane over this story, why is that? I don’t recall Megyn Kelly doing 45 separate segments on it, like she has with the Black Panther story.

    There was a single case of an idiot with the New Black Panthers standing at the polls with a billy club. Not a gun, like the Minutemen did, a club.

    Here’s what you’re missing: Fear of the Black Man. Oh my god! Panthers! Eric Holder! Barack Hussein Obama! Van Jones! That woman at the USDA who just lost her job over another manipulated Breitbart video criticizing a remark she made about a particular white person 25 years ago! The wife of the farmer in question said that this woman was the only thing between them and losing their farm all those years ago, but that didn’t matter to Andrew Breitbart, who will apparently try ANYTHING to discredit black people.

    It might already be too late. I just don’t know. I can’t really put my finger on it, but this panther thing has got me all upset. The Minuteman story I couldn’t care less about, but this Panher thing is really getting to me.

    • torqdog says:

      Shirley Sherrod getting fired was indeed tragic, yet not at all surprising in this highly charged atmosphere where we are in essence playing “pin the tail on the racist.” Remember when we had the discussion about race and the cavalier way in which it was being thrown around, mainly at conservatives? Remember how I said one of the consequences of overusing the race card was that it would turn into a “crying Wolf” scenario and the accusers would eventually lose much of their credibility? In a way, the firing of Shirley Sherrod is somewhat related to that scenario in that with the NAACP recently condeming the TP for unsubstantiated “gross” violations involving racism while completely ignoring actual evidence of racism within their ranks, any little iota of racism gets blown way out of proportion and innocent victims are the result. Shirley Sherrod, Trent Lott and a whole host of folks have had their lives changed by being falsely accused of racism and it’s got to stop! But in this highly charged election year where there ain’t a whole lot of record to run on and defend, I expect it will only get worse.

      Breitbart and his minions on both the left and the right are just tools of those looking to get an edge. I know you know this so try not to act so shocked.

      Glen Beck who was mentioned in the 3rd call from the White House asking for her resignation has some interesting things to say. He’s pissed and thinks she got a raw deal.

      http://video.foxnews.com/v/4287769/beck-why-was-shirley-sherrod-fired/?playlist_id=87937

      • Bill says:

        The only racist asshole who’s crying wolf, Randy, is Andrew Breitbart. Let’s keep this in perspective. This goon is out to market edited clips and make money. That’s it. He cut his teeth learning online politics while he worked for Arianna Huffington as Huffington Post took off and he was run out of the tent.

        And Beck ought to know about raw deals. He was behind ousting Van Jones from the Administration and behind ACORN getting more media attention than 2 wars we’re in. Both turned out to be false and Breitbart was part of the ACORN smear.

        I appreciate that you always seem to want to share the blame on both sides of the political spectrum, even when one side has done the most damage.

      • torqdog says:

        “I appreciate that you always seem to want to share the blame on both sides of the political spectrum, even when one side has done the most damage.”

        Regardless of how you wanna spin this Bill, racism exists in the NAACP. Forget Sherrod and just listen to the “members” of that organization in the crowd at that luncheon giving their approval to what, at that partcular moment in her speech, was truly coming across as racist. If the NAACP is going to go about condeming orgs. like the Tea Party for a sign or two carried by loons (every group has ’em), they better damn well make sure that they are squeaky clean. I know you agree with me because in the past, when I’ve brought forth some sort of info that so and so is doing something ridiculously stupid, the first thing you do is post a rebuttal showing like behavior from a group or individual you perceive I might approve of.

        As I’ve stated before, this blatant usage of racism to try to take out individuals or groups that don’t conform to a particular mindset has got to stop. Even many leaders in the Black community are starting to see this for what it is and they are finally speaking out against it. Will you do the same?

  17. rjblack says:

    Hi Bill, sorry your level of anger is racing and my contributions seem to only increase your blood pressure.

    Thanks for calling me Bucko; I have not been called that for years!

    If you go back and read my post about voter intimidation, you will notice I stated that I could care less what color or creed you are, if you attempt to prevent me from voting I will exercise my second amendment right. That also includes any group regardless of their political affiliation. Do unto others and all that.

    I am not a conservative as you suggest, neither am I a democrat, fox, msn and every other paper or news service that is main stream are full of it as far as I am concerned and the papers make great carpet for the bird cage.

    If you actually knew me as a person and not from my posts, the very last thing you would call me is a racist, my circle of friends is more diverse than the UN. Race means very little to me, asides from the pigmentation of our skin, the DNA is very much the same across the board; we are all the same, humans who only want what is best for our children and communities we live in.

    You are correct in that I insulted you, and for that please accept my heartfelt apology.

    If I was truly looking for a fight I would write some right wing BS or left of center piece in my blog and inflame as many as I could with factual and factious information just to get a rise out of people. I can be like that.

    As for the President, he is the leader elected by the American people in a national vote, his skin color is not an issue, his policies some of them at least are. So if I disagree with some of his decisions that does not make me a racist. That is saying every black man who disagreed with Bush was a racist and that is a ridiculous statement to any intelligent person, and I know you are intelligent Bill.

    In addition, the remark made about not helping the farmer at the luncheon and taking him to “his people” is a racist remark, black and white, pardon the pun; she also stated that she did not do everything in her power to help him because no one helped the black farmers who also lost their farms. Two wrongs do not make it right.

    That is the problem Bill, politics is a tit for tat game destroying the lives of good people and slandering the very few politicians who actually try and make a difference and playing the race card seems to be the only option the left employs. Anyone who disagrees with Obama or any other person who has a different color of skin is called a racist it is cheap and sleazy diverting energy and scrutiny from the policy or statement.

    I am well traveled and culturally sensitive and clearly understand the difference between hate and bigotry, words and emotions I do not throw around lightly as it cheapens the true meaning of the words.

    In Rwanda Bill, I witnessed bigotry, black on black Hutu vs. Tutsi and the UN was warned of the impending violence, the Canadian general asked for and was denied a chapter seven intervention, and we all know the outcome, Bigotry turned into hatred and hundreds of thousands died thank you President Bill Clinton.

    The democrats are just as dirty as the republicans are and every time someone calls me racists, I am reminded of that defining moment in my life of the butchery witnessed and standing orders not to intervene. The same people who allowed that to happen are the very same people still running the democrats so calling me out as racists or playing the racists card is height of hypocrisy for any democrat.

    Fighting amongst each other over semantics or a political philosophy and coming at each other in an emotionally charged opinionated attack neither furthers your or my cause we agree to disagree as two opponents and that is fair ball. If we each started to cut through the political bullshit, we would find common ground and that is an excellent starting point for a conversation.

    I try not to get excited anymore Bill, I have seen evil and the refusal of decent people to become involved and the end result is very ugly indeed.

  18. Bill says:

    Barack Obama’s skin colors does matter, RJ. It shouldn’t but it does. When someone challenges his policies, but the challenge is shallow and unguided and mixed metaphorically and wanders all over the landscape without a solution attached, you bet his skin color is involved.

    There is a well-known problem with senators and reps from the South. They snicker and Twitter and joke and skirt their racism cleverly, but it;s clearly there. The asshole who shouted,”You Lie!” at a sitting president in a State of the Union speech wasn’t just overcome by his so-called passion for partisan poltics. He’s a racist. Don’t sugarcoat it, don’t look the other way. It racist and he’s only a symptom of the bigger problem.

    The Republican response to all this is,”Gee, all we do is challenge bad policy and we get called “racists!”

    Uh, how about having some solutions so it looks a little more constructive and a little less suspect?

    Why do you think FOX News and its so-called reporters and anchors are absolutely obsessed with black people in the Administration? At some point, a pattern of behavior emerges that cannot be ignored. FOX defenders will say that they are just giving balance to news stories, but you can see the compulsive attacks every morning and every single night. Sean Hannity is just, plain disturbed by Barack Hussein Obama and you can feel it watching him. Olbermann was that way with Bush and it gets old really fast.

    When Clinton rolled out of office, he said there were two things that he regretted. The Monica Lewinsky mess, of course, and not taking military action in Rwanda. He took military action in Kosovo and it was ethnic cleansing he was trying to prevent. People have wondered why the same concern wasn’t shown for Africans and the vicious, evil ethnic cleansing that was happening between the Tutsi and Hutu factions.

    And when we can collectively and honestly answer that single question, l believe we’ll be getting somewhere in our ongoing national debate on race relations.

    • torqdog says:

      Bill, we’ve beaten this race thing to death for some time now and I can tell it’s been all for not…… we haven’t changed a bit. I was thinking back upon the Clinton years and the extreme vitriol going back and forth throughout his Presidency. Remember the “vast right wing conspiracy” and “politics of personal destruction”? Yeah, it was getting thick, people were disagreeing with his policies just like they did with Bush and just like they’re doing now with Obama. The difference here is you guys seem to get all butt-hurt because Obama is coming under the SAME scrutiny as his predecessors, yet because he’s Black, it must be because of his race. I mean c’mon, you know it’s getting ridiculous when 60% of the population who wants Obamacare repealed are labeled as Racists? Again, it’s that “crying wolf” thing and only serves to show the race baiters as a bunch of self serving leftist shills incapable of actually discussing the bill itself. It’s a hell of allot easier to call someone a racist than to actually have to defend the indefensible. When you write stuff like;

      When someone challenges his policies, but the challenge is shallow and unguided and mixed metaphorically and wanders all over the landscape without a solution attached, you bet his skin color is involved.

      it’s obvious that you’re phishing for results that are already personally predetermined. I mean WTF was that?!!! Was there “a solution attached” when the Repubs went after Hillarycare and why weren’t they labeled as sexists, or were they? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least cuz that’s the way y’all roll!

      I’m sorry but I’m lividly pissed off and am trying to keep my cool. This will be THE last discussion I have with you Bill regarding Race. You obviously see everything through race tinted glasses and nothing I or anyone else says is gonna change your perspective. Of course since I’m done here, you may have the last word if you insist.

      Peace!

      {edit} you’re still my bloggin buddy Bill ;-), it’s just this shit’s really gotten to me today for some reason and I’m done with it.

      • Bill says:

        You act like I invented the idea that there are racists involved in Republican politics. And, yes, there are race-baiters in the mix, on both sides, as you like to say. Just listen to Limbaugh for a few minutes on any given day. Or Glenn Beck saying the president is racist against white people. Most of the people I see on the news and commentary programs who claim a deeper, traditional racism exists now seem to be mostly people of color and a few hot-headed Demos.

        Did I make the NAACP go on the attack against the Tea Party for its tolerance of racist elements in their midst? No, I did not. Did I make the Tea Party respond so aggressively, including another planned rally to prove they are not racists? No, I did not. They are even going to have 5.7 black people there to prove, once and for all, that the TP is not racist. Did I make Limbaugh say, for weeks, that the only reason Obama won the election is because he’s black? Nope. Did I make him suggest that Obama is “getting even with whites” with his policies? This is the same Republican mouthpiece who said that racism is now suddenly dead in America and the election of Obama proves it. Jimmy Carter, who knows something about Human Rights and the culture of the South has said that racism is at the root of criticism of Obama. That was last year.

        If you simply google “Racism and Barack Obama,” you’ll get a faceful of links from entirely different sources documenting individual cases.

        Your argument of criticims about Clinton and Bush are false equivalencies, Randy. Race wasn’t part of the discussion. Sexism probably played a part in defeating “Hillarycare.” Remember when a reporter asked if she planned to be an activist First Lady and she responded with,”What do you want me to do, stay home and bake cookies?” People on the right -side of the aisle went insane. How dare she?!?!?

        You seem to be very offended by these developments, but more worrisome, you seem to be saying that I’ve somehow indicated that you are racist, which I have not.

        And I will challenge your “60%” of the population who don’t want what you call “Obamacare.” Are you referring to the Health Care Reform bill? I stopped calling “you guys” Baggers out of respect. You can drop the facetious “Obamacare” any time now.

        USA Today from this Spring-

        “More Americans now favor than oppose the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds — a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against the legislation.

        By 49%-40%, those polled say it was “a good thing” rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms — as “enthusiastic” or “pleased” — while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as “disappointed” or “angry.”

        The largest single group, 48%, calls the legislation “a good first step” that needs to be followed by more action. And 4% say the bill itself makes the most important changes needed in the nation’s health care system.”

        From Healthcare Digital for healthcare workers, July 2010:
        “In its latest survey outlet, the Kaiser Family Foundation has noticed a positive movement on the health-care reform bill. In their May poll, 41 percent approved of the bill and 44 percent didn’t. Their June poll, however, has flipped to 48 percent approval and 41 percent disapproval. That’s the fourth poll in a row to show improving numbers for the legislation: The AP and Gallup polls both flipped from plurality disapproval to plurality approval, and the NBC/WSJ poll registered a slight (2 percent, which is within the margin of error) improvement in the bill’s numbers, but remained at plurality disapproval.”

      • Bill says:

        I’ve added this to my reply, Randy, just for you: I have no idea why you get so worked up about the subject of race relations in this country and whether people think the Tea Party has a strong racist element to it. I don’t get it.

        A couple of months ago, you blew your stack the same way and said that you were done with it and how I’d better be careful about bringing race into the discussion. You seemed upset over the top then, as you do now, and I was just curious why? You don’t have to agree, but you seem way overclocked about it.

        I have a conservative Republican acquaintance here in town. I’ve talked to Stu about the guy. He’s a great guy, unless you mention black people, or, as he calls them, “f*cking ni**ars.” This is a Viet Nam combat veteran, former Navy Seal and disabled from his war wounds. He has the heart of a lion, and when I asked him if he was going to vote for Obama, he said,” Hell, no! I ain’t voting for no f*cking ni**ar!” And started laughing. I went to another older guy who worked for us, Ron, from Montana. He was 75 years old at the time and when I asked him the same question, he shook his head and said,”No…I can’t vote for a Muslim…a Muslim terrorist, Bill.” So much for my colleagues at work.

        But, seriously, when was the last time you heard a liberal describe black people as “f*cking n**ars?” Or just a Democrat, even a conservative one. Why is that, do you think?

      • torqdog says:

        Well Bill, I guess I’ll come out of my short, self imposed exile to respond. 1st, let me say that you’re probably right, I am somewhat oversensitive to this stuff. It just royaly pisses me off that it has become a “tactic” used to silence people, good people and that ain’t right. I’m sure you’ve heard by now the erupting furor over the Journolist e-mails that have recently surfaced. One of the participants, Spencer Ackerman said this;

        In one instance, Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”

        http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/20/documents-show-media-plotting-to-kill-stories-about-rev-jeremiah-wright/

        As you can clearly see, it didn’t matter whether Rove or Barnes were racists, it was a tactic used to divert attention from the issue at hand. I’m all for a good fight but dammit, it sure would be nice if we could at least have a fair fight revolving around the issues and not some sort of “ends justify the means” nonsense. This takes “politics of personal destruction” to a new level and I think even you would be totally incensed if the shoe was on the other foot. And yes, I’m sure you have examples you could post showing that “shoe” but it would only go towards proving my point.

        There’s a whole lot more to that daily caller story that I won’t go into now, but it does reveal how journalism in this country is dead. They didn’t teach you this stuff when you went to school, did they?

        Actually you’re right…… I haven’t heard a liberal call a black an effing ni@*ar. But I do have a liberal neighbor down the street who hates Mexicans. Effing wetbacks, beaners, you name it. He even has the Obama stickers still attached to his car. The reason I know this is he gave me shiat one day for having a mexican cleaning lady, you know, the gal I mentioned who got her citizenship recently. Totally bizarre!

        Bill, I know racism exists. I know we have done great injustices to the Blacks as you described in your rebuttal to rj’s article. But crimes against humanity have gone on since the dawn of time. The Jews were persecuted and enslaved by the Eygyptians, then the Romans, then rounded up and gassed by the Nazis only to find themselves living in constant fear of total annihilation at the hands of Imindeedanutjob of Iran. Add to that the crusades, the Japanese internments, Polpot and the list goes on and on and continues to build as we speak as slavery and human persection continues here and there around the globe. I’m not saying it’s right or should be accepted because it’s expected but we have done much to remedy the situation in this country as evidenced by rj’s article. That’s one of the things that separates us from the rest of the world, when we realize that we’re going down the wrong path, we fix it and make it right. Blacks have more opportunity to succeed here in the USA than practically anywhere else on the planet. I just hate seeing a whole group of people with a collective chip on their shoulder as it’s counter-productive to their own cause. We have to somehow find a way to move on, get past those ugly scenes from a time long ago but using race as a political tactic just turns up the heat on an already simmering issue and does nothing to further the cause.

        That’s what has me royaly pissed off. These current accusations really have nothing to do with whether or not certain individuals or groups are racists. It’s all about character assasination, using shameful tactics to try and subdue your opponents so you can deflect from the important stuff that matters. I’m sick of it and anyone capable of discerning right from wrong should be as well.

        On a side note…….Viv and I are getting ready to head off for the Sierras for a weekend campout so I prolly won’t be blogging much the next few days. Have a nice weekend everyone! :-)

  19. rjblack says:

    Thanks for the reply Bill your points are taken and I will not apologize for Southern senators or the republicans, I am neither. America is polarized and if more people joined the conversation in here, problems could be solved of that I am sure. One of the very exclusive places in word press where intelligent people can actually engage in relevant conversation without the BS.

  20. rjblack says:

    Ok Bill here we go! heheheheh sorry

    I found this article today and decided to post it here, it is an interesting read.

    Cheers

    The recent dust-up between the NAACP and the Tea Partiers over charges of “racism” appears to be yet one more instance of blacks accusing whites of insensitivity, real or imagined. In reality, however, these exchanges reflect far deeper animosities that will not vanish with “clarifications” or expelling “racist” Tea Partiers.

    The NAACP and its numerous allies have for decades led the charge to expand government power, including intruding into areas once considered absolutely off-limits to local government, let alone Washington. Tea Partiers are not libertarians, but they’ve had enough with government power run amok. This disagreement is, to use Thomas Sowell’s words, an unbridgeable conflict of visions: the Tea Party’s agenda, even stripped of any racial component, contravenes the NAACP’s raison d’être, so when the NAACP complains about insensitivities, it is just saying, “You intend to destroy us.”

    Begin by recognizing that the post-1960s civil rights agenda has been the single most powerful force in expanding Washington power. Nothing comes even remotely close. During WWII, Washington set prices, rationed consumer goods, and limited business profits, but this infringement was correctly understood as temporary and was universally welcomed as vital to national survival (and it was soon ended). Neither the environmental movement nor consumer protection legislation has penetrated so deeply into the everyday life of Americans.

    Documenting this expansion is endless. In education, for example, the push to integrate America’s schools has affected the lives of millions, especially those who fled cities to avoid forced busing, while judicial degrees have shaped everything from tax rates to the racial composition of school staffs. Urban demographics were radically altered by forced integration, and this remains true today. The 1964 Civil Rights Act brought federal intervention into local restaurants and movie houses and even constrained people’s ability to choose their neighbors. The 1965 Voting Rights Act and subsequent extensions now make every city and town in America vulnerable to Justice Department oversight if their election system slights minority representation. Employment-based affirmative action has exploded from a narrow presidential directive targeting federal government contractors to a bureaucratic colossus. There is scarcely a person alive, from professors to blue-collar cops and firefighters, whose life-chances have not been shaped by government race policy. There is no escape — those in rural Idaho seeking a mortgage will probably experience the repercussions of the government’s push to promote home ownership among blacks and Hispanics.

    Yet, thousands of civil rights successes aside, the political appetites of groups like the NAACP seem insatiable. It is no exaggeration to say that they believe that government is sufficiently powerful, if only vigorously prodded, to level outcomes across nearly all of human existence. This faith-based relentlessness soon resembles the classic gambler’s fallacy — if one lawsuit does not bring racially proportionate equality of admission to law schools, file two, and if that comes up short, file four, and eventually, it is believed, victory will arrive. Scarcely a day passes without some civil rights group going to court to challenge an exam that allegedly hinders black job applicants or demanding that Washington forcefully intervene to protect poor blacks from allegedly discriminatory financial practices.

    At some point, even those sympathetic with the civil rights agenda — and this undoubtedly included most Tea Party fans — will recognize that this relentless craving for government-imposed racial equality is deeply antithetical to limited government. In the final analysis, then, the NAACP and its allies are on a collision path with the Tea Party movement. Put more formally, given what is already on the books and vigorously enforced, new civil rights measures serve only to expand government, with scant payoff for intended beneficiaries. The point of diminishing returns on political pressuring was reached long ago. In a nutshell, the very existence of the Tea Party is a message to the NAACP: Stop.

    Make no mistake: Civil rights groups are not the only fans of big government. There are those who would radically expand defense budgets; others demand gargantuan expansion of social welfare. Further add nanny-state meddlers obsessed with our diets. But what makes the civil rights agenda so contrary to the principles of limited government, over and above its ceaseless character, is its penchant for invading what was heretofore politically off-limits. It is one thing to demand free universal medical care, but quite another to attempt to micromanage the workplace to root out any vestiges of alleged discrimination. To those unfamiliar with this Kafkaesque madness, consider just one of hundreds of anti-discrimination strictures from the U.S. Equal Employment Commission:

    For example, a “no-beard” employment policy that applies to all workers without regard to race may still be unlawful if it is not job-related and has a negative impact on the employment of African-American men (who have a predisposition to a skin condition that causes severe shaving bumps).

    There are also rules about non-job social events, so, for example, a firm that favors golf outings may be guilty of racial discrimination if its black employees prefer basketball to golf. A firm might also risk lawsuits if refuses to promote a white person who has a black spouse or if the white employee socializes with blacks, or if the firm’s insurance policy had a race-related illness as an excluded existing precondition. The list of prohibitions and requirements is not only far-reaching and murky, but navigating them requires legal staffs trained in the equivalent of Talmudic interpretation. Who would have ever guessed that firms must now consider shaving bumps when setting grooming standards? Or must inquire about the race of an employee’s friends or spouse before announcing layoffs? No, these are not hypothetical illustrations.

    The NAACP/Tea Party conflict would vanish if the NAACP and its allies suddenly abandoned their infatuation with federal coercion and instead embraced a strategy more in tune with the non-political approach of Booker T. Washington or Father Devine — working one’s way up the economic ladder via self-help. So, instead of piling on yet more made-in-Washington rules and regulations to exorcise the demons racism and discrimination in education, civil rights groups would, for example, create after-school cram academies to help struggling students earn a legitimate high school diploma. And I’d guess that they would have no problem recruiting Tea Party sympathizers to help teach these courses.

    The NAACP/Tea Party conflict over limited government cannot be resolved, though it is all too easy to paper it over. Tea Party fans are not anti-black or anti-civil rights; they certainly do not favor repealing civil rights legislation or enfeebling the Justice Department. They just prefer limited government to pursuing an aim — racial equality — that appears unreachable. It is one thing to expand government during wartime, when national survival is at stake, or to achieve a worthy and reachable goal; but to empower Big Brother and accomplish nothing other than bigger government is hardly an acceptable sacrifice.

    When confronted with the inevitable charge of racism, Tea Party folk should resist the urge to fight the battle on these acrimonious grounds. Battling a civil rights group over “racism” is an unwinnable, pointless battle. Blacks will always claim the high ground of moral authority to define “racism.” The debate should be about sustaining a bedrock principle of our Republic — limited government — versus some egalitarian dream. This is a classic clash of principles and transcends who said what when. It is, moreover, about time that the virtues of limited government enter the public debate next time the NAACP or its sympathizers demand yet more government intrusion into private life.

    Of the utmost importance, African-Americans should be reminded that, after all, they are a minority, and the purpose of limited government is to prevent tyranny, especially the tyranny of the majority over the minority. In the long run, African-Americans — like all Americans — should dread an out-of-control government no matter how seductive that government’s mission. The NAACP has, sad to say, forgotten perhaps one of the most basic lessons of American governance. Doubters should just observe what happens elsewhere in today’s world when government power is unchecked. There is an oft-repeated Jefferson quote that captures this dilemma exactly: “A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.”

    The dust-up is about power and tyranny, not insults.

    Robert Weissberg is Professor of Political Science-Emeritus, University of Illinois-Urbana. His latest book is Bad Students Not Bad Schools. badstudentsnotbadschools.com

  21. Bill says:

    I can take serious issue with a couple of points, RJ, but it’s a waning issue for me. Let “them” all fight it out. I know what I know and feel.

    Thomas Sowell is a well-known Republican conservative who happens to be black. His column used to run in my daily paper.

    Black people in America didn’t sneak acroos the border for jobs. They were ripped from their villages, sometimes by opposition tribes that “sold” them to slave traders. They were kidnapped, beaten, chained, marched into the holds of ships and brought here against their will, where they were beaten, tortured, raped and murdered without notice or due process in a coutnry where the Constitution counted them as 3/5 of a human. Thomas Jefferson, the guy you quote, screwed his own slaves. In a country where “freedom and liberty” were being preached and debated. And since the time of the Civil War right up until I was 14 years old, blacks have been discriminated against, lynched, terrorized, kept from attaining decent educations and jobs and housing, segregated at diners, in buses, drinking fountains and public swimming pools. Why? Because they were black. Period. The guy who said a group of black kids couldn’t swim in the New Jersey swimming pool last summer a racist? No, he just didn’t like their “policies,” I guess.

    Have you or your family experienced anything like that? Aside from Jews in WW II, has any race or ethnic group in the Western Hemisphere experienced what blacks have experienced and continue to experience at the hands of racists? That word seems to terrify some, but it’s an acccurate descritpor of anyone who uses the color of your skin or your ethnic background to keep you from having the same rights and opportunities that they have or were provided.

    So, yeah, RJ, I “get” that the NAACP is an old, tired organization that race-baits and cries foul. I also get that whites who are angry about what they perceive as “reverse discrimination” and affirmative action trespasses are upset and use term like “nanny state” and carry signs saying, basically,”I got mine, Go get your own!”

    The favorite meme of conservatives these days is,”If I criticize a black person based on the merits of what they are putting out there, I’m called a racist.” No, you are not. If you come up with frivolous reasons why you find their position wrong and you did and said nothing when a white person put out the very same points, you might want to check your personal credentials.

  22. R. J Black says:

    Bill, I really like you! I could spend hours chatting with you over a beer or soda, I do not drink, lord knows I should but I quit when my first child was born.

    First off, you will never get an argument from me that discrimination is evil and people must be measured on their character, integrity and actions. It was important enough to me that my children were taught at home any injustice committed by another on any person disadvantaged or not is wrong.

    My children speak up and against these acts, came home more often than not with bloody noses, and bruised hands. Violence is not the answer or an acceptable alternative, but at times one is left with no choice.

    The acts of our ancestors at that point in history was acceptable as distasteful as it sounds, and yes hypocrites were they on some issues. To hate is a learned behaviour and compassion, tolerance, love and respect for others must be taught in the home by the parents, forcing it on people causes resentment, intolerance and the never-ending cycle of ignorance.

    I was fortunate enough to live for a number of years in a multi-cultural society to the North and even in a liberal society; racism is alive as cultural clashes become unavoidable. If we truly wanted to end all racism then the school curriculum must be changed to recognise the differences we from all over the world have, cultural differences. The thought of continuously apologizing for the sins of the past keeps black America as victims and no healing will ever take place.

    South Africa is a shining example, and they only took 25 years, one generation!

    There is no magic silver bullet here, we sacrifice the rights of one group for another and there is no equity in that for anyone, it becomes a vicious circle and we debate that same old tired arguments with new words and spin.

    If we truly want to end racism, look to South Africa, this generation understands the horrific brutality of Apartheid and abject forced poverty by a minority over a majority, and yet they still found forgiveness against their oppressors.

    America needs to come to terms with the past and move forward, then and only then will the stupidity we call politics in this country resemble something civilized.

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