Pin the Tail on the Racist

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August 6, 2010 by torqdog

On Wednesday, August 04, 2010, a few black members of the Tea Party got together and held a presser at the National Press Club. As was to be expected, most of the conversation revolved around the recent charges by the NAACP that the Tea Party is a racist organization. These folks don’t agree and have a few observations of their own in this very engaging video.

I might add that if one is to go back in time and honestly look at who did what, when, etc. etc. you will find that racism knows no party. Some could argue that the Democrat Party itself, which is the party of Jim Crow, George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Al Gore Sr, Strom Thurman, William Fulbright, Bull Connor, Lester Maddox, Robert Byrd,  and a whole host of others did as much or more to hinder folks of color. In fact, the 1964 Civil Rights Act would not have passed if it wasn’t for a greater percentage of Republican Senators than Democrats voting for it. See for yourselves you non-believers;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

So buck-up ye race-baiting boneheads……. yer barkin up the wrong tree. Try pointing your daggers and pinning your tails on the folks who continue to perpetuate racism for personal or political gain (you know exactly who I’m talkin about, don’t you!). Those are the true racists/race-baiters and for the common good of this country, need to be put on the ignore list…….. PERMANENTLY!!!

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24 thoughts on “Pin the Tail on the Racist

  1. Stu says:

    That wiki article is confusing. The stats “By party” show a greater percentage of support from Republicans, but the stats “By party and region” shows a greater percentage of support from Democrats for both the original and the senate versions of the bill – in both the North and the South. How can that be?

    • torqdog says:

      Stu, go back and look at it again. I think it has to do with the wide swings of members from the south who voted it down. Since the Repubs only had 1 member at the time and the Dems 25, it makes sense when you compare the differences.

      The Senate version:

      Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
      Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

      The Senate version: By party and region

      Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
      Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
      Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
      Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

      Bottom line is that it wouldn’t have passed without the Repubs. As I stated, racism knows no party boundaries and some of the folks who “supposedly” have the best interests of minorities are the same folks whose livelyhood depends on a continuation of racial tensions. Poverty Pimps is a good description.

      One other thing that strikes me about those numbers is the extreme super majority the Dems had over the Repubs back then. 67 to 33!

      • Stu says:

        Interesting (and no surprise) to view the straight North vs. South vote, both parties combined:

        Total South: 1-21
        Total North: 72-6

        In 1964 we had the likes of George Wallace serving as Alabama’s Governor. Only 18 months prior to the passing of the Civil Right Act, Wallace proclaimed (in his inaugural speech):

        “In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”

        After making that statement, the people of Alabama elected Wallace to 3 more terms as their Governor. It’s no wonder the North vs. South vote for the Civil Rights Act looked like it did.

        This topic makes me think of the family vacation we took back in 1968, which I discussed in the Amero post:

  2. Bill says:

    “You’re a racist!”

    “No, you are for saying that!”

    Black Conservatives…what a fucking joke. Buncha Uncle Tom wannabes. Why is it that certain groups help those who seek only to supress them? Think healthcare corporations and the Tea Bagger movement.

    Well this post proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Democrats are the real racists in our country. And I unscrew my head and keep it in the freezer at night. I spoke with my Bagger friend here in town last week, the ex-Navy Seal who’s blind and lives alone. When I asked him how he’s doing, he didn’t drop a beat: “Well, until we get that f*cking n*gger out of the White House, things are going to suck for everyone!”

    Then he had the nerve to go down a list of services and outreach programs he participates in from the VA. He’s taken on skiing and fishing trips, at taxpayer expense, that I can only dream about.

    Now, I should have stopped him right there and said, “You know, Mickey, the real racists in this country are the people who want to help! Democrats and the NAACP!” He would have loved that one.

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I guess I’m supposed to be race-baited into responding with a tit-for-tat, but I have a suprise for you. I’m busy today. I have other things planned than taking on your partisan bullshit talking points. What, is there a new web site that tells Cons what to say if you’re accused of racism in the past three weeks?

    Randy, I know you are very sensitive to being lumped into Tea Bagger rantings, particularly about race and racism, thus your obsessive posts about how Baggers and Repubs ARE NOT RACISTS! Maybe if you say it enough times, it will become fact. Conservatives have spent a lot of time the past three weeks running for cover over race since that lying prick Breitbart scammed Fox News about Shirley Sherrod. The White House and the NAACP were foolish for acting without looking first.

    It’s always intersting to see Neo Cons re-write history and blame the victim. Stay classy!

    • Stu says:

      I think that’s twice that you’ve used the racist comments of that bitter ex-seal as an example of…well, I not sure what. I guess an example of racism? I think both times it was used like a counter-point to an opinion or viewpoint presented, but I’m still not sure how it ties in. You and I both know he comes no where close to representing the views of the Tea Baggers. It sounds like he’s just an angry bigot. I thank him for his service to our country, and he’s entitled to his opinions, but just because he claims to be a Tea Bagger doesn’t mean he speaks for them.

      For example, Ted Bundy was active in local politics as a Republican. John Wayne Gacy was a Democatic Precinct Captain. Neither of them represented the values of the Republican or Democratic parties. Yeah ok so that’s a bit “over the top” and an extreme example…or is it?

      I’ve also got to believe that the men of color in that video were speaking sincerely. What compels you to call them “Uncle Tom wannabes?” Because their opinions differ from yours? Because they affiliate themselves with the Tea Party? How can you be so confident in your belief that they are disingenuous? Do you know something about these guys that I don’t?

      Don’t get me wrong…I don’t claim to be a member of the tea Party. I’m just trying to understand where you are coming from. Help me out?

    • torqdog says:

      Yeah Bill…… duh-huh! I can usually guage how much I hit a nerve by how hard you come back attacking with all your colorful language as has been witnessed time and again. Kind of sucks having to acknowledge that Democrats with their neo-lib cohorts aren’t quite the principled party on a pedestal, huh!!! As I stated, racism knows no party boundaries and the reasons behind my posting this goes more towards showing that, contrary to the promoted brainwashing propaganda by Democrats that conservatives are all evil racists, there’s enough guilt on both sides to go around and around. And remember Bill, voting for someone because they are Black is as racist as voting against someone because thay are Black. Try removing those extremely tinted partisan shades you’ve been wearing and it may even become clear to you, yeah, even you……. maybe. ;-)

      Did you really write the “Black Conservatives…what a fucking joke. Buncha Uncle Tom wannabes” line? Yeah, you sure did! Am I to assume by this remark that any Black who goes “off the reservation” and becomes a conservative is automatically considered an “Uncle Tom” in your book? Sure sounds like it. At least you didn’t call them “porch Negroes” but the sentiment is there. That’s rich Dude! Almost seems slavishly racist. Gotta keep ’em in their place, right?!!! Be careful with that stuff Bill, you just may find yourself on the receiving end someday. You live by the sword you just might……….. well, you know.

      And here, this one is even better. Some more of those “Uncle Tom” (your line, not mine) folk for ya;

    • torqdog says:

      Well a ringy-ding-ding dingy-DOG! Skippin one again on da blog!

      Sooooooooo, I see down below that you have ignored this post here in favor of the continuation of your one trick pony teabagger crap. I’ve been following you for some time now and I must say that you’re really starting to bore the heck out of me. It is quickly becomming a desert of thought provoking discussion here as everything seems to always revert back to the racist teabaggers. Hit ’em hard and continually wear them down, Right?!!! I guess the repeats after repeats have finally taken their toll. I’m outta here!

      Sorry!

      BTW; how’s that “summer of recovery” workin Bill? After all the hoopla with the stimulus and extreme govt. spendulus programs that, as predicted, did nothing to stimulate the private sector, this era of non-recovery is all Obama’s now as he’s had all the time and votes neccessary to see his programs through!

  3. Bill says:

    Mickey is my friend, Stu, and I’ve helped him out from time to time. I take him fishing and helped write letters so he could get a seeing-eye service dog recently. And I scold him for talking like that, but he’s not nearly alone. I use him as an example of someone who is brave, a patriot, and a conservative Republican through and through. I’ve spent time talking politics with him and he’s extremely well-informed. That troubles me even more. He’s an old-school racist and he doesn’t give a shit what I think about his vulgar, bigoted attitude.

    I am not calling all Tpers racist. I believe there are demonstrable racists in their midst and only recently has there been any effort to purge them, like Mark Williams, following on the heels of the Sherry Sherrod debacle. It’s the 800 lb gorilla in the room now. The Tea Party is desperately trying to recruit peoploe of color to come to their rallies and help them show that the TP is not racist, NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE THINKS! And it’s a gimmick.

    If mainstream black people felt comfortable around TPers and they really agreed with the splintered, confusing platform the TP presents, would they need to be “invited” to participate?

    So, I get a bit annoyed this new Neo-con effort to rebrand the historical victims of racism in this country as racists. It’s an old ploy to blame the victim. Maybe in Bizarro World that’ll fly, but in an election year it looks phony and contrived.

    • torqdog says:

      Duh Bill, I hate to be the bearer of facts here but in this election year, it’s the neo-lib Demmies that got all this racism stuff started. Internal polling by the DCCC found that this, and running against George Bush, AGAIN!, are the only two items that seem to resonate for y’all this year. I’m sure the Journolisters have their mitts on this as well. Puppeteers manipulating their puppets and they do it so well, the puppets being manipulated that is.

      Nice try!

      BTW; Good luck with that George Bush one too. Question, do the Democrats EVER take responsibilty for THEIR actions or is it just easier to blame someone else? Hmmmmmm, strange……. that’s exactly what a five year old does. ;-)

  4. Bill says:

    Well, I’ve raised 5 year olds and they are blindingly honest about things. Perhaps too much so.

    Explain to me how the Dem/Libs started all this because I don’t recall seeing any signs at Dem rallies painting racist images of a black president or carrying signs “Slaves = Niggars” or images of Michelle Obama as an ape or Obama as a bone-through-the-nose witch doctor.

    Why do you think it is that the TP attracts white supremists and The KKK? They have every right to caricature a political figure, but a reasonably intelligent person might deduce that race was at the core of their protest. At the core, not all layers, because partisan politics dictates that libs and cons don’t get along and Republicans are notorious sore losers over what happened in 2008. I credit The Uniter for helping create the current atmosphere.

    • torqdog says:

      “I credit The Uniter for helping create the current atmosphere”.

      Yeah, so do I! I assume your referencing Obama, Obama, the post partisan, post racial president. Yeah, a real uniter that Obama is. This country is more divided now than at any time since the civil war. He went too far, too fast and didn’t give a damn about what the people were saying as he shoved crap down our throats in all his arrogance. Yeah, that Obama is some uniter allright.

      Good job guys!

  5. esarsea says:

    Why do you think it is that the TP attracts white supremists and The KKK?

    I think it’s pretty much a no-brainer that any political organization that opposed the Obama administration would attract that crowd. What better way to work against a half-black President than to join a movement that opposed him? One can’t summarily dismiss the TP’ers on that basis alone IMO. In fact I’m confident the TP views that attraction as an unwanted side-effect and handicap to their cause.

    I suspect those who oppose the TP are absolutely thrilled that bigots are attracted to the organization, so they can focus on that issue as opposed to what the TP represents as their agenda?

    I mean, how happy would one candidate be if his/her opponent in a political race was found to have been endorsed by a racist? It would give the candidate the ability to campaign on the premise that his/her opponent was supported by racists, rather than on the candidate’s position on the issues — which may not have any racist motivations at all.

  6. Bill says:

    You’ve just drilled into the Motherlode, my friend. Randy refused to answer this question and artfully dodged it just before he began posting anti-Obama cartoons, so I’ll ask you: What does the Tea Party stand for, what is “their agenda” other than to wait to see what Obama does next and then protest it?

    What does “smaller government” mean? Which departments would they like to dissolve? The IRS and the Education Dept. What does “taking back our country” mean? Not a damn thing to the rest of us who also “own” the country. I wouldn’t “give back” what we have to a bunch of half-assed hillbillies and rednecks who can’t come up with an original thought. What does Obama’s a Marxist-Socialist-Kenyan-Muslim mean?

    Idiotic statements like,”We need to protect the Constitution” don’t mean anything, especially from people who want to repeal the 14th Amendment because it no longer suits them.

    Here are some comments on the news blog for The Daily Courier newspaper in Arizona that pretty much sums it up for me:

    Matt Fay
    “It was only weeks after Obama won the election that I took a peek at the Tea Party website. It was nothing but Obama hatred. That sealed the deal for me, and told me it was nothing but a bunch of paranoid old white people creating a new hate campaign. Of course no mention of Bush policies, and the Republican irresponsibility that helped put us in this position. Closed minded. The good news is that in 20 years they will all be gone. The bad news is that they have children.”

    Wait Wut
    “The tea party agenda is fairly obvious. Protect their version of the Constitution. Support corporate interests and the rich. If it doesn’t benefit you personally, then it must be Socialism. You can deny the racism that is apparent in all the sites and blogs I watch, but it’s there. The links to white supremacist sites are frequent enough that I can only assume that at least a few of you frequent the sites often.”

    honky brujo
    “All the tea parties have done it make it possible for these racist to get together as a group and spew their hate. A few years ago these bigots would be ashamed to speak that treason. But now they can assemble, chat among themselves and convince each other that all Americans are white supremeist like they are. When in reality the rest of us look on them with disgust for their hatefilled rhetoric.”

    Parker Anderson
    “The Tea Party is NOT a grass-roots movement! Oh, it may have started that way, but now we have “official” organizations like the Tea Party Express, the Tea Party Federation, etc. This tells me the Tea Party is now a well-oiled political machine, no different from any others. I actually heard one pundit recently boast that once the Democratic “scourge” has been removed from America, people should not worry about one-party rule because we will still have two parties–the Republican Party and the Tea Party! Hmmmmm….only a fool would continue to say this is still grass-roots.”

    Peace Nik
    “This is just a radical and visceral response to a Democratic President that the TPers and Republicans want to fail and, in that, ruin the whole country, for their selfish motives. Republicans have been in power for the last 20 of 28 years. Clinton left a surplus that was piddled away with tax cuts for the rich, 2 wars and a gargantuan expansion of government called the Department of Homeland Security that is the biggest growth of government in our lifetime. The FBI, Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon trip over each other with power struggles and ideology. Obama passes health care reform, financial reform, and credit card reform to benefit the middle and lower classes and the Republicans fight tooth and nail to water it down, spread lies, and hope for failure. Sorry, but the Tea Party offers NO SOLUTIONS but to return to the failed practices of the past.”

    Tea Party = Hypocrisy
    “The main problem I have with the Tea Party is the hypocrisy. Where were they before Obama was elected? When our phones were being wiretapped? When our president led us to war on false pretenses? When we moved from a budget surplus to a huge deficit? When the prescription drug benefit passed (the biggest entitlement program in history at the time) Where was the Tea Party then? Strangely, I didn’t hear a peep. Why is it OK for white people to show to political protest with assault rifles and shout out about “Taking matters in to our own hands”? Can you imagine if a group of Black or Hispanic protesters did this? They would call in the marines! I can’t help but wonder if it was because our former president was a white christian good ‘ol boy, and they somehow feel threatened by the color of our current president. I think a lot of the anger I see in the Tea Party is demonstrated in the right wing media and highlighted in the case of Shirley Sherrod: What the Tea Party is really saying is – ” We are scared. We are scared that black people and minorities are going to take over, and they really are after us. Look what will happen if you let them take over – they will harms us and discriminate against us”. Sherrod’s scenario was simply classic in that regard. Problem is, the truth was fabricated, edited, and manipulated, to hide the real story. Just like the Tea Party agenda is today.”

    No Party
    “You should thank Obama for finally getting the lazy over 50 crowd off their butts and try to do something with their meaningless lives, misdirected though it be.
    And just because you finally get politically active doesn’t make you a patriot.”

    Stop pretending
    “…The Tea Party claims to be about freedom, protecting the constitution, restoring good government, etc, BUT it is so firmly entrenched in republican party rhetoric and outright ignorance of how government works, and completely incapable of seeing both sides of an issue! It’s a whiners club with clever quotes, republican talking points and Fox News to fuel it. Look at the numbers! It’s almost all republicans, very few democrats or moderates. I thought it was a cool idea and would have joined up if it wasn’t all about party politics. But that is all it is, hiding behind a thin veil that fools only its own members.

    A patriot is someone willing to serve his country, not just their political party.”

    And that’s just from today, August 2010.

    • torqdog says:

      Here’s something from today as well. From the examiner;

      http://www.examiner.com/x-268-Right-Side-Politics-Examiner~y2010m8d11-Marco-Rubio-takes-Harry-Reid-to-task-for-Reids-latest-racist-slur

      Harry Reid once again demonstrates that it is that it is OK to be a racial bigot, so long as you are a leftwing racial bigot.

      “I don’t know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican, OK? Do I need to say more?” — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), August 10, 2010

      So is that a racist thing to say? Surely it can be filed under profiling…… but wait, profiling is racist. So Bill, ya gonna get all excited and condemn these remarks by Reid, a true example of racism or are you gonna continue your crackhead carpet sharking routine looking with a magnifying glass for that last rock you dropped on the shag?

      • Bill says:

        “Crackhead carpet sharking?” Me?!?!

        I don’t know how anyone of Hispanic heritage can be a Republican, either. Does that make me a racist?

  7. Stu says:

    Well I won’t answer the question either, but that’s because I don’t know the answer. I was just responding the the question why the TP might attract racists, and then suggested that the attraction might not equate to the TP being a racist organization.

    I don’t know what the TP is about or what political ideals they stand for. I’ve gone so far as to check out their website(s) and wasn’t able to make much sense of it all…but I didn’t see any swastikas or burning crosses either.

  8. Bill says:

    Naw, you won’t find any trace of overt racism on most TP sites. They’ve either been scrubbed or rebuilt clean. For burning crosses and swastikas, you have to do a bit of link clicking I guess.

    The kind of invasive, hidden racist stuff is Birthers who try to de-legitimize the President’s election by claining he wasn;t born in the USA, Palin calling his policies “Un-American,” and the whole screed about how he’s a Muslim from Kenya. Those idiotic sentiments are designed carefully to appear to be legitimate questions with racism at their core. It’s an attempt to make Obama appear to be a foreigner, a danger to the country, an outsider, an enemy of the state, not a “real” American.

    And it’s all just bullshit without the sheets, hoods and burning crosses.

    • torqdog says:

      Get some new material Bill, your stuff is getting stale. And for burning crosses, all you need do is look into Robert “KKK” Byrd’s past, a past that you and your pals conveniently gloss over and make excuses for. Bill Clinton’s eulogy is a prime example, “he only did it because he had to get elected”…… what a crock! Your double standards are bordering on breathtaking and frankly, I’m really getting bored.

      • Bill says:

        Why don’t you just answer the original question, Randy? What’s the Tea Party’s electable platform this fall? What things presented by TPers do you think will resonate with the rest of the country in sufficient numbers to win elections? Repealing “Obamacare?” Fat chance that idea will resonate with anyone other than a sliver of the electorate.

      • torqdog says:

        Does it really matter Bill? I mean other than a few candidates around the country they’ve endorsed, they really aren’t a “party” in the typical sense. I know that in Nevada there’s a supposed candidate from the TP who’s running for senate but everyone here knows he’s just a Reid plant, a stoge in the race to try and help hapless Harry by drawing on Angle’s voters.

        I can’t speak personally for the TP but I don’t think they really need a platform as it’s more of a movement than a conventional party. Maybe they should change their name and eliminate “party” from their moniker. It seems to confuse you and allot of others and we surely wouldn’t want that now would we?!!!.

      • billie789 says:

        Hahaha! Nice fail. I’m confused about the Tea Party like you’re confused about liberals.

  9. Bill says:

    Me and “my pals?”

    Am I “pallin’ around” with people who gloss over Robert Byrd’s past, Randy?

    • torqdog says:

      You know exactly what I mean Bill. I distinctly remember you defending him when this came up in the past. Don’t play cutsie!

  10. billie789 says:

    The only defense anyone ever mounted was that he was very young and stupid when he did that.
    Teddy Kennedy said it, Bill CLinton said it and I agree.

    There’s also a body of evidence now that he spent the rest of his life in public service trying to make up for it.

    Since you are stuck on Democrats who had racist ties at some point in their lives, you should check into the Tea Party’s affiliation with The Sons of the Confederacy sometime. Joe “You Lie!” Wilson is a good example.

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