Crime Stats straight from the source


January 2, 2013 by torqdog

Here’s a video that discusses crime statistics in this country and Great Britain. It’s not what you might think based on what we see and hear everyday.

Fullscreen on youtube recommended to see the reports.

19 thoughts on “Crime Stats straight from the source

  1. esarsea says:

    Seems fairly straight-forward to me. Sure don’t hear our media talking about a 50% drop in violent crime, do we? Not that I’m insensitive to the Sandy Hook Elementary tradegy by any means, but it’s interesting to view the stats that are maintained by an agency without a political agenda to forward…

  2. esarsea says:

    I sent a link to this post to an old friend of mine, who is a career (retired) law enforcement officer. Here was his repsonse:

    “This guy hit part of it on the head. The other part is when he digs deeper he’ll find that in areas where there have been laws passed for licensed concealed carry (CWP) for handguns, violent crime rates drop even more, some areas as much as 70% (another FBI stat). And the Metro areas that have the most restrictive firearms laws or outright bans on handguns have the highest crime rates. Simple fact. And it is a fact (another FBI stat) that banning firearms does not reduce violent crime. Never has.

    Bad guys are not totally stupid, they don’t turn in their guns. Gee big surprise there. But legally owned concealed handguns, legally carried by Citizens, do deter violent crime. Bad guys don’t like it when the target shoots back. They go for easier prey.

    Maybe if every state allows CWP for its Citizens except for Illinios & New York, all the bad guys will move there and the violent crime rate would drop even more.

    Hopefully sanity will prevail in Washington DC but I don’t have high hopes.

    Keep your guns loaded & powder dry. Thanks for the info.”

    • Bill says:

      And I’m keeping my weapons at the ready because….?

      You see that moron in Tennesee today who runs a ‘security’ company and went out of his mind on YouTube and said “he was going to start shooting people if anyone tries to take his guns” in a government draw-down of semi-auto combat-style rifles and extended clips?

      The video was taken down soon after and he’s not answering the phone at his ‘security’ company. And he’ll be in an law enforcement interview within 24 hours, but not because Wayne LaPierre says we need to butterfly-net guys like this, and we do, but because he’s now openly threatening to shoot people over his stupid, goddam guns.

      Until this blows over, I wouldn’t be posting anything on the internet with keywords about shooting or preparing for an armed revolution against the United States government.

  3. esarsea says:

    FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year than Rifles
    by AWR Hawkins3 Jan 2013, 6:13 AM PDT

    According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.

    This is an interesting fact, particularly amid the Democrats’ feverish push to ban many different rifles, ostensibly to keep us safe of course. However, it appears the zeal of Sens. like Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) is misdirected. For in looking at the FBI numbers from 2005 to 2011, the number of murders by hammers and clubs consistently exceeds the number of murders committed with a rifle.

    Think about it:

    In 2005, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 445, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 605. In 2006, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 438, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 618.

    And so the list goes, with the actual numbers changing somewhat from year to year, yet the fact that more people are killed with blunt objects each year remains constant.

    For example, in 2011, there was 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs. Another interesting fact: According to the FBI, nearly twice as many people are killed by hands and fists each year than are killed by
    murderers who use rifles

    The bottom line: A rifle ban is as illogical as it is unconstitutional. We face far greater danger from individuals armed with carpenters’ tools and a caveman’s stick. And it seems fairly obvious that if more people had a gun, less people would be inclined to try to hit them in the head with a hammer.

    • Bill says:

      Yeah, now if I could just sneak into a dark theater one night with 2 16 oz. framing hammers before anyone saw me, I could ‘nail’ 40 people in about an hour and a half, if they sat really still and I swung them like airplane propellers.

      You guys are cracking me up.

  4. torqdog says:

    Here’s two recent examples of the MSM completely ignoring stories that don’t fit their anti-gun template. Rather than post individual stories, I’m going to post the entire google search threads so you can see how there is a total lack of interest from the likes of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the New York Times and all the other usual suspects including FOX. Not one story! (FOX did report on the woman in the attic story) It’s no longer even a question as to whether they sport some sort of bias, IT’S A FACT!!! Their agenda driven reporting threw objectivity out the window years ago and they have definitely become the de-facto fourth branch of Govt. Pravda, you’ve got competition!

    The first story involves the Oregon Mall shooter who was stopped by an armed citizen with a CCW a few days before Sandy Hook. It could have been allot worse had he not gotten involved.

    The second story involves the woman who along with her kids hid in the attic. When the intruder found them she opened fire averting a home robbery and who knows what else the perp had in mind.

    • Bill says:

      That last story is a killer! She shot this guy 5 times, including in the head, and he ran out!

      He’s either Superman or she’s the best trick shot in the world or the worst shot in the world under pressure.

      At any rate, another rare success story for gun owners protecting their homes.

      We had ONE in Utah last year. A 20-something druggy wandered into a family home in Utah County at 3 in the morning through an unlocked back patio door. He was apparently walking down the backyards and trying each door. He was out of it.

      Long story short, the Dad had to shoot him in front of the kids. Perp kind of rounded up everyone, had no weapon, but said he did, and told Pop to get his money. Pop says it’s in the closet. Perp says go get it. Pop comes back out and drops the guy, dead.

      The local paper has tried to follow the family a bit and it doesn’t sound good. They moved out of the house and area because everyone is totally freaked out. The kids have nightmares and Dad, according to the Trib, “is having a really hard time, still.”

      Now, I tell this story because defending one’s home just isn’t a big crime stat here. We’ve had home invasions reported in the news, but it’s almost always druggies ripping off a dealer or another druggie over a debt, a gang banger banging another gang banger, etc.

      • esarsea says:

        I don’t believe for a minute that it’s a ‘rare’ success story. Defensive gun uses in the United States are estimated to number 2.5 million per year – one defensive gun use every 13 seconds.

  5. Sparky says:

    My answer is pretty simple. It doesn’t matter what someone attacks me with. Gun, knife, hammer. It doesn’t matter. I choose not to be a victim.

    I will defend myself by whatever means are available, but the best and proven method currently available is a firearm. Until they invent a “phaser” that will just disintegrate the SOB, firearms are what I will use and I don’t believe it is anyone’s place to tell me that the firearm I choose can only hold so many rounds or has to look a certain way. I believe it is my God given right to protect myself and my kids. Maybe if more folks thought like that, and less people sat around with their thumbs up their asses, wringing their hands and asking the government to do something, we wouldn’t be having this debate. People have to grow a pair and learn to be self reliant, instead of waiting for somebody to come hold their hand. If only one good legally armed person had been on the scene of any of these incidents and had done what was necessary, these shooters could have been stopped.

    In my businesss as licensed FFL dealer, which I operate from my home, I have to face the reality of a home invasion each and every day. Bad guys trying to steal inventory. A few years ago it happened to an FFL dealer about 80 miles South of me, and he was killed in the robbery. He was a friend of mine. I don’t loose sleep over it, but I do take precautions and I am very careful about who I let on the property. I have had a couple of incidents where 3 to 4 subjects who looked suspiciously like meth users showed up without appointment and tried to get through the locked gate. Both times they were stopped by the dogs, my “first line” of defense. My 2nd line is a semi-auto Colt Commando AR that I have carried for over 30 years as a police officer, security specialist and bodyguard. It uses a 100rd. drum. If I have to engage and put down (and I don’t mean with harsh language) multiple armed bad guys, I don’t want to worry about having to reload.

  6. torqdog says:

    Here’s another. Don’t let those statistics get in the way of any preconceived notion.

    • esarsea says:

      Nice find. Piers needs to go home.

      • torqdog says:

        Yeah…….. but they don’t want him either. LOL

        I actually enjoy hearing his tirades. First off, it’s his 1st ammendment right to say stuff that makes him look stupid but secondly, he opens his mouth and it just confirms how ill informed he is or better said….. stupid. Again, we don’t wanna let statistics and truth get in the way of an emotional pontificator displaying his ignorance.

        • esarsea says:

          I don’t think he’s stupid but he’s certainly an arrogant SOB. I watched him as a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice and didn’t care for him then…and I don’t care for him now.

          • torqdog says:

            Yeah, maybe “stupid” wasn’t a good choice of words but I will say that every time he opens his mouth, the NRA gains at least another 100 members or more (just guessing).

            Seriously, the NRA has gained over 100,000 new members in less than a month since people like Piers Morgan started spewing their anti-gun crap. I’m sure that makes ole Piersy just happy as a clam……..NOT!!!

            It’s that old factor of “unintended consequences” that these folks just never seem to understand. Keep talkin Jackhole!

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